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Jun 18, 2007 2:18 PM
Last Post By: misterwinko
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Windows Users Don't Care About Safari
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Jun 12, 2007 12:10 PM
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For full blog:
http://www.informationweek.com/blog/main/archives/2007/06/safari_on_windo.html
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Re: Windows Users Don't Care About Safari
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Jun 12, 2007 12:10 PM
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Re: Windows Users Don't Care About Safari
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Jun 12, 2007 12:19 PM
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I think it's a great marketing strategy. There are so many useful apps that come preinstalled on OSX (iPhoto, iMovie, etc.), but Safari wasn't one of them. Now that it's been brought up to speed with other browsers and is linked to the (hopefully) enormously successful iPhone, Safari will be part of the big picture.
Think about it. If the iPhone is adopted as widely as the iPod has been (It took years people. It's not going to happen overnight!), people will demand that apps be written for it that can sync with their Windows PCs. In order to make these apps, programmers will have to use Safari and Web 2.0 to implament them on the iPhone. Say goodbye to Internet Explorer.
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Re: Windows Users Don't Care About Safari
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Jun 12, 2007 12:26 PM
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i tested it last night on my windows... but the arabic support was shitty, i tried everything to extend the arabic support, changed the encoding.. but no use, but its fast..
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Re: Windows Users Don't Care About Safari
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Jun 12, 2007 12:30 PM
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According to Cnet (Robert Vamosi Blog), researchers have already found security holes in Safari for Windows. I use IE7 99% of the time, and have Firefox installed as an "emergency backup". I have no interest in Safari.
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Re: Windows Users Don't Care About Safari
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Jun 12, 2007 12:41 PM
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I think the reason behind it is the iPhone.
iTunes set up Windows users to fully embrace iTunes. iTunes, the Store, and iPod are huge and ubiquitous, regardless of host operating system.
I think the gamble is that Safari will be the gateway drug to iPhone.
I think, maybe, just maybe we can look ahead to iPhoto and iWeb coming to Windows.
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Re: Windows Users Don't Care About Safari
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Jun 12, 2007 1:00 PM
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The idea that a high speed internet connection negates the need for fast rendering has it completely wrong: faster rendering is most notable on a high-speed connection.
I've downloaded and installed Safari and found it much snappier, it's like driving a car with a very responsive gas pedal. Furthermore, I appreciate Safari's simple, subdued interface.
I think it's a rather brilliant strategy on Apple's part. Apple is in the business of selling content on the net, and for that they need iTunes on as many computers as possible. The web browser is one of the most valuable strategic pieces of real estate on a computer, the portal to which they connect to the net and engage in commerce. Picking up just a couple of percentage points of the Windows market, which isn't inconcievable, would be a big long-term strategic win for Apple.
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Re: Windows Users Don't Care About Safari
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Jun 12, 2007 1:37 PM
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I think it is great. Safari for Windows will probably be bundled with iTunes in future versions. People will use it and see how great it is and want to buy macs. Same strategy as iTunes for Windows.
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Re: Windows Users Don't Care About Safari
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Jun 12, 2007 1:48 PM
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Windows is really in need of a khtml browser, I've always used Konqueror and what Apple has added to is great. No one is going to port Konqueror to windows so Safari is the next best thing.
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Re: Windows Users Don't Care About Safari
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Jun 12, 2007 1:59 PM
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This is great for developers to test cross-browser support in Windows without having to boot-up a Mac to make sure JavaScript doesn't break on picky Safari. Developers more and more have to make sure that the latest web technologies work on all major browsers to at least provide adaptive functionality to accomidate. Having as many browsers as possible on the same workstation is very helpful when user-testing web applications.
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Re: Windows Users Don't Care About Safari
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Jun 12, 2007 2:14 PM
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Fast rendering is important, especially as sites become more and more complicated with heavy javascript usage. On my 20MBit broadband I notice a huge difference between Safari and IE.
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Re: Windows Users Don't Care About Safari
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Jun 12, 2007 2:25 PM
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I love the Safari interface and would prefer to use over IE, but so far the beta crashes on about 50 % of the sites I visit.
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Re: Windows Users Don't Care About Safari
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Jun 12, 2007 2:49 PM
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Well its not like they are going to re-invent the wheel here with their browser. I own a Mac and love Safari. Apple does things for a reason and there is a strategy like all the other posters have mentioned...its the iphone (plus more). I mean how much more can you do with a browser? Apple is very good about reaching whatever goals they set for themselves. I dont believe that Safari is supposed to take over IE or Firefox, but rather facilitate other components on the hardware and software side to make their more products as seemless as possible.
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Re: Windows Users Don't Care About Safari
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Jun 12, 2007 2:53 PM
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How does it work. After two installs it still will only go to an Apple page. Can't type in another URL, can't import fav's, no navigation bar and no icon ID's when pausing on one. What are requirements. Have flat screen monitor with dual (dvi-analog) inputs still nothing. Looks like a big APPle ad. Doesn't work
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Re: Windows Users Don't Care About Safari
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Jun 12, 2007 2:55 PM
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Having just downloaded and installed Safari for Windows, I'm browsing using Safari now.
I use IE7 and FireFox somewhat interchangeably, unless someone releases a browser that brews my coffee and toasts my bagel in the morning, there is little to sway me to a preference either way.
Is Safari a little faster on the page load? Yep. Does IE7 make me cringe with its ActiveX blocking? Yep. Do I like FireFox's third party plug-in development (such as IE tab)? Brilliant. As an end-user, do I care about any of this? Not really.
Speed and features aside, I would bet dollars to Apple doughnuts that this is simply another clever branding scheme in preparation for the release of the iPhone later this month.
I don't think that Apple's motives are as altruistic as some here suggest. Certainly, developers will benefit from access to Safari as a cross-platform tool. The market will swell with Safari/iPhone tools and services.
More importantly, though, is the name. Safari will become a brand recognized by the 90% share of windows-based iPhone target users. When the purchase decision arrives between iPhone and say Treo (or Blackberry) the name 'Safari' will be the deal maker.
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